Comments on: What if the United States never entered the WWII? http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:59:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: chris park http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-242297 chris park Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:59:16 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-242297 7 out of every 8 liters of petrol was supplied by the US. Long before the US entered the war, Britain was broke and could no longer afford to buy materials and finished goods from the US under the cash and carry agreement. Take away lend-lease, the Americans and Canadians supporting and then getting into the war, and I think both the SU and the Uk would have sued for peace. I think the NAZI party would have collapsed after the death of Hitler anyway. If you look behind it all, NAZI Germany was nothing more than an entire nation gripped in a personality cult. 7 out of every 8 liters of petrol was supplied by the US. Long before the US entered the war, Britain was broke and could no longer afford to buy materials and finished goods from the US under the cash and carry agreement. Take away lend-lease, the Americans and Canadians supporting and then getting into the war, and I think both the SU and the Uk would have sued for peace. I think the NAZI party would have collapsed after the death of Hitler anyway. If you look behind it all, NAZI Germany was nothing more than an entire nation gripped in a personality cult.

]]> By: Adam http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-240216 Adam Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:32:15 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-240216 most logical explanation is the US was a sleeping giant waiting to gain more power and a reason to capitalize on Germany break throughs in nuclear science, aviation, etc. They entered after a lot of hard lifting and sacrifice was already done by Europe. Its like the 3rd dog waiting for the other equally strong ones to wear each other down and then come in for the kill. Who gained the most after world war 2 ? It sure as hell wasn't anyone else but the U.S. most logical explanation is the US was a sleeping giant waiting to gain more power and a reason to capitalize on Germany break throughs in nuclear science, aviation, etc. They entered after a lot of hard lifting and sacrifice was already done by Europe. Its like the 3rd dog waiting for the other equally strong ones to wear each other down and then come in for the kill. Who gained the most after world war 2 ? It sure as hell wasn’t anyone else but the U.S.

]]> By: Mitch http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-237500 Mitch Wed, 30 Nov 2011 05:15:03 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-237500 With the USA out of the war, Japan could have begun attacking the Asian part of the soviet union forcing that much more pressure on the USSR. The Germans could have had time to developing jet fighters, rockets and possibly even nuclear weapons to turn the tide in thier favour, without pressure from the west. Britain may have even been starved out and forced into submission with out American support With the USA out of the war, Japan could have begun attacking the Asian part of the soviet union forcing that much more pressure on the USSR. The Germans could have had time to developing jet fighters, rockets and possibly even nuclear weapons to turn the tide in thier favour, without pressure from the west. Britain may have even been starved out and forced into submission with out American support

]]> By: Emir http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-235984 Emir Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:59:35 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-235984 The most important items that the USA was supplying to USSR were strategic materials like aluminium, copper, etc . The amount of it was more than manufactured in the USSR in that time. Total list of items was very huge. It is very unlikely that USSR would win without any help. 5% probability of victory. Even if the USSR would win, the amount of its losses would be much and much higher, additional 6-7 millions of people. The most important items that the USA was supplying to USSR were strategic materials like aluminium, copper, etc . The amount of it was more than manufactured in the USSR in that time. Total list of items was very huge.
It is very unlikely that USSR would win without any help. 5% probability of victory. Even if the USSR would win, the amount of its losses would be much and much higher, additional 6-7 millions of people.

]]> By: Melany Lunday http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-235357 Melany Lunday Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:56:09 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-235357 The 2nd front was opened up by Germany, not America. The 2nd front was opened up by Germany, not America.

]]> By: Harold Smith http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-234029 Harold Smith Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:17:42 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-234029 "...everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States..." ARMY BOARD, 1944 President Roosevelt (FDR) provoked the attack, knew about it in advance and covered up his failure to warn the Hawaiian commanders... http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html “…everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States…” ARMY BOARD, 1944

President Roosevelt (FDR) provoked the attack, knew about it in advance and covered up his failure to warn the Hawaiian commanders…

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/pearl/www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/pearl.html

]]> By: Tyco200 http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-234009 Tyco200 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:16:13 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-234009 We must also remember the immense help we did give in strategically killing Nazi industry. Almost half the Nazi tanks that came out were of pure quality, due to overwhelming bombing raids. Britain was not capable, nor able to defend/bomb on its own. They lacked both the aircraft escorts and the industry to survive such a war. The Battle of Britain also saw termendous losses for the RAF as well, and if the Nazis had not stopped their own bombings on British fighter industry then the British RAF would've been wiped out. We must also remember the immense help we did give in strategically killing Nazi industry. Almost half the Nazi tanks that came out were of pure quality, due to overwhelming bombing raids. Britain was not capable, nor able to defend/bomb on its own. They lacked both the aircraft escorts and the industry to survive such a war. The Battle of Britain also saw termendous losses for the RAF as well, and if the Nazis had not stopped their own bombings on British fighter industry then the British RAF would’ve been wiped out.

]]> By: Tyco200 http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-234008 Tyco200 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:12:25 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-234008 Let's face it. Without our help, Russia wouldn't have gotten the necessary equipment to their troops. Everything, from winter clothing, to even more than 4,000 tanks (half of which were effective Shermans' armed with 76mm guns, anti-freeze added to the ammunition storage). They also received many P-39 Aircobras. Those served up until 1943. Let’s face it. Without our help, Russia wouldn’t have gotten the necessary equipment to their troops. Everything, from winter clothing, to even more than 4,000 tanks (half of which were effective Shermans’ armed with 76mm guns, anti-freeze added to the ammunition storage). They also received many P-39 Aircobras. Those served up until 1943.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-221963 Anonymous Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:58:37 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-221963 From a few Europeans I've talked to, Ungratefulness and denial. From a few Europeans I’ve talked to, Ungratefulness and denial.

]]> By: Carl http://www.wrongways.com/what-if-the-united-states-never-entered-the-wwii#comment-220263 Carl Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:35:46 +0000 http://www.wrongways.com/?p=123#comment-220263 Lotsa good info here. I see no practical scenario where germany doesn't win vs USSR without US intervention. Without the allied bombing destroying the german infrastructure and the millions of tons of weapons/concrete/steel used to secure the western front, compiled with 5 million fighting troops stationed there, it's absolutely impossible that the USSR sustains a defence. German tank production alone would have steam rolled the russians, they anticipated 6000/panthers year alone, but were not able to build this because all of their factories were being torn up. Add the 1st army, 7th army, 15th army, 19th army, 5th and 6th panzer to the eastern front and then fortify them with all the air power and tanks germany "projected" they would make and it would have been a slaughter. As it was the germans managed to kill nearly 25million russians while still sustaining the western front. I don't even want to add in lend-lease, which is always minimized, 19000 aircraft were given to them through lend lease alone. My conclusion without a doubt is without the western allies help that the soviets lose. Lotsa good info here. I see no practical scenario where germany doesn’t win vs USSR without US intervention. Without the allied bombing destroying the german infrastructure and the millions of tons of weapons/concrete/steel used to secure the western front, compiled with 5 million fighting troops stationed there, it’s absolutely impossible that the USSR sustains a defence. German tank production alone would have steam rolled the russians, they anticipated 6000/panthers year alone, but were not able to build this because all of their factories were being torn up.

Add the 1st army, 7th army, 15th army, 19th army, 5th and 6th panzer to the eastern front and then fortify them with all the air power and tanks germany “projected” they would make and it would have been a slaughter.

As it was the germans managed to kill nearly 25million russians while still sustaining the western front. I don’t even want to add in lend-lease, which is always minimized, 19000 aircraft were given to them through lend lease alone.

My conclusion without a doubt is without the western allies help that the soviets lose.

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